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Ann Lanier
04-30-2008, 10:01 PM
RE: Steve Martin and SND

After Hurricane Katrina, I sent a check to Gulf Coast Doberman Rescue. (I also sent large checks to Red Cross, Doctors Without Borders, a couple to Craig Sharry for his wonderful BBQ dinners in Houston for Katrina victims, besides my usual donations to The Smile Train and FINCA. Pushing my budget, I donated several nice items from my collection to aid Gulf Coast Doberman Rescue. By then, GCDR was using Special Needs Dobermans to collect for them, so I contacted SND and sent my items to them, with the proviso that the proceeds would go directly to and ONLY to Gulf Coast Doberman Rescue. Contrary to Cheri McNealy's emphatic statements (I guess she has my phones bugged???) there WERE 'strings' attached and those were the strings.

It was my wish and right not to support DPCA Rescue. (Despite my having raised over $100,000 with CH of COPE and having donated $10,000 to $15,000 to it myself, I am not able to belong to DPCA. I have commited no offense, never violated the COE and have been denied membership without any reason given by the BoD.) I still wish to support Dobermans in trouble.

Steve Martin called me from the National and explained that the DPCA was going to take 50% of anything SND took in, and knowing, he said, I preferred not to donate to the DPCA he said he was pulling the items I had donated from silent auction. Steve absolutely was aware then and now of my wishes. After all, THAT is why he called me from the National and pulled my items from his table. So when my items quietly became the "CYBERDOBE's Raffle for DPCA Rescue", I was very upset, indeed very angry. I considered Steve's actions to be fraudulent; he knowingly misdirected my donations from one cause to another.

Had I wished Cyberdobes to raffle my items to benefit DPCA, I would have sent them direct to DPCA a 501(c)(3), and Steve knew it. I angrily demanded the return of all remaining items and donated them to another Doberman Rescue of my choice. I count Steve fortunate not to have been present when I found out what he had done.

Steve immediately applied the old adage: The best defense is a good offense... that is, when you have done something wrong, attack very loudly! He began accusing me of not caring about the dogs, not caring about Dobermans, and trashed me on CD to cover up that he had no right to give my donations to Cheri to become the CYBERDOBES Raffle for DPCA Rescue. He even insisted that he had no idea I would have a problem with McNealy. Give me strength!

BTW I was not thanked by DPCA or GCDR, despite the fact that 'my' item brought.. what??? $1700?? Where it went I have no idea. I imagine Cheri was heartily thanked, though.

SND has not to my knowledge made public any reports of how their funds are used. And don't get me started on how disgusting Martin's treatment was to Grace Joffe, the originator of SND. But still, I have donated to particular SND dogs before this incident and since. I donated recently for my memory of Grace. Sometimes it IS about the dogs...

Ann Lanier

tosca
05-01-2008, 07:37 AM
Thank you for your post, Ann. Sometimes, it seems that while rescues may have good intentions, their accountability is sorely lacking. Rather than acknowledging those who give, with thanks and keeping their specific wishes/directives in mind, they pick and choose from whom they will accept funds and do as they wish with donations/funds proffered.

As the IRS requires all charitable organizations to be accountable, so should donors. While I appreciate that rescue is difficult at best, accounting for funds should be a top priority.

andyhilt27
05-01-2008, 05:28 PM
What is wrong with these individuals I fondly refer to as McNealy and friends????

Inspector Clouseau
05-04-2008, 08:31 AM
As always, the Martinette makes any criticism of his ways the fault of the other. Certainly the Martinette never does anything wrong. Mon dieu, non! Impossible, n'est ce pas?

The Martinette posted:

This week Ann Lanier resurfaced with her wild recounting of the events surrounding her donations to the DPCA Disaster Relief Effort. I received a copy of what she is now posting and I believe that some of her remarks deserve a response to the Doberman public. If the Martinette wishes to respond to the Doberman public, why does he send his reply only to the salopards and putains that inhabit the Cyberdungheap? Is it because on the Cyberdungheap he can lie and no one will say what is veritable? Menteur!

It is clear to me that Ann still misunderstands how the disaster relief effort was conducted, how fundraising at Nationals is conducted, and how SND accounts for its funds to the IRS. This is a classic rhetorical tool used by the Martinette. The person who points out his lies and perfidy is always the one who does not understand. Merde! We all understand too well how the Martinette works, having watched his modus operandi for year after foul smelling year.

A response is especially important since it seems she has joined a small group of people bent on damaging SND and smearing its efforts to help the Dobes in need. Since these people can’t criticize the good that SND does they have to “invent” horror stories. The only person bent on damaging SND is the Martinette. If he would cease his vicious attacks on members of the Doberman Community, put his bloated ego away, and fulfill the mission of SND they would be fine. Mais, quelle grande surpirse! The more the Martinette attacks the Doberman community, the less money is donated to his little charity. The Martinette is all about ego. His contempt for Doberman lovers drips from his spittle-flecked lips.

Lest anyone think that this is a campaign of my making, I would like to emphasize that I have never met Ann, don't know her and never had any involvement with her until she approached me concerning the disaster relief effort. I never wished to be the "attack dog" here but I will NOT stand by while she spreads her false accusations about me and SND. Another favorite Martinette strategem. Betray the other person then be f""orced to respond" when the other points out your perfidy. And pretend that actually meeting someone has any bearing on whether you should keep your promises to her. The salopards and putains will take him at his word. The rest of the community can look to Mademoiselle Lanier for the truth.

To be continued.
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Inspector Clouseau
05-04-2008, 08:46 AM
As always, the Martinette makes any criticism of his ways the fault of the other. Certainly the Martinette never does anything wrong. Mon dieu, non! Impossible, n'est ce pas?

The Martinette posted:

This week Ann Lanier resurfaced with her wild recounting of the events surrounding her donations to the DPCA Disaster Relief Effort. I received a copy of what she is now posting and I believe that some of her remarks deserve a response to the Doberman public. If the Martinette wishes to respond to the Doberman public, why does he send his reply only to the salopards and putains that inhabit the Cyberdungheap? Is it because on the Cyberdungheap he can lie and no one will say what is verrtiable? Menteur!

It is clear to me that Ann still misunderstands how the disaster relief effort was conducted, how fundraising at Nationals is conducted, and how SND accounts for its funds to the IRS.

This is a classic rhetorical tool used by the Martinette. The person who points out his lies and perfidy is always the one who does not understand. Merde! We all understand too well how the Martinette works, having watched his modus operandi for year after foul smelling year.

A response is especially important since it seems she has joined a small group of people bent on damaging SND and smearing its efforts to help the Dobes in need. Since these people can’t criticize the good that SND does they have to “invent” horror stories. The only person bent on damaging SND is the Martinette. If he would cease his vicious attacks on members of the Doberman Community, put his bloated ego away, and fulfill the mission of SND they would be fine. Mais, quelle grande surpirse! The more the Martinette attacks the Doberman community, the less money is donated to his little charity. The Martinette is all about ego. His contempt for Doberman lovers drips from his spittle-flecked lips.

Lest anyone think that this is a campaign of my making, I would like to emphasize that I have never met Ann, don't know her and never had any involvement with her until she approached me concerning the disaster relief effort. I never wished to be the "attack dog" here but I will NOT stand by while she spreads her false accusations about me and SND.Another favorite Martinette strategem. Betray the other person then be forced to "respond" when the other points out your perfidy. And pretend that actually meeting someone has any bearing on whether you should keep your promises to her. The salopards and putains will take him at his word. The rest of the community can look to Mademoiselle Lanier for the truth.

To be continued.

Reni Margar
05-04-2008, 12:11 PM
I don't get this type of post....commenting on "snipits" from someone else's post. In broken French also...come on...kinda tacky isn't it! Seems the whole post should be there for all to see.
Ann stated whatever...we could read it. Steve Martin responded on another list, as I gather and we are only seeing selected parts. HUH?
Clouseau should post the whole reply and leave the comments out. I thought there was a "no flaming" policy on this list?
All this sounds like 14yr old bratty girls school gossip.
Why the pseudonym ? :confused:

Reni